[MlMt] PSA: Mobile app that's compatible with many MailMate features.

[davecc0000]

Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside the benefits on the FAQ or other information pages?

What does the annual subscription cost?

Dave



> My apologies for those who already know this, but, last night I stumbled across an iOS app that matches many of MailMate's features, but, obviously, works mobile.
>
> MailMate is absolutely the only email client for me at my desktop, but, there are things I sometimes must do on my iPhone or iPad that are tricky to do with the standard Mail.app client there.
>
> The client I found:
>
> https://preside.io
>
> Now, the UI may not appeal to all, but, it is incredibly flexible, with a huge array of configuration options to suit many needs.
>
> For me, the highlight was: It works seamlessly with MailMate IMAP tags (as stored on FastMail, at least).
>
> There are all sorts of things like Smart Folders, integration with helper apps, quick filtering, configurable buttons, its own S/MIME certificate management, and so on.
>
> Just wanted to share this as I figured others in this community may be interested. Preside very much feels like a "power user" mail app, just as I see MailMate to be.
>
> Mobile will not be replacing desktop for me anytime soon - but to at least be able to access many of the power features MailMate has enabled for me over the years whilst mobile was a huge win.
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott
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[TJ Luoma]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 3:45 PM Scott A. McIntyre
<***@howyagoin.net> wrote:

> The client I found:
>
> https://preside.io
…
> Just wanted to share this as I figured others in this community may be
> interested. Preside very much feels like a "power user" mail app, just
> as I see MailMate to be.

I hadn't heard of this app before, and I was very excited to try this
out… but a subscription of $25/year for an iOS mail app kept me away.

I'm not against paying for software, even software that has a free
alternative (e.g MailMate! I even used to pay for the Opera browser
years ago before it went free). Heck, I think I paid $25 for a mail
app on my old Treo 300 way back when. But subscribing to an app is
still a pretty high bar for me.

Then I got to thinking, if you do sign up for a year, it's basically a
tiny bit more than $2/month (although unfortunately they charge
$5/month if you don't prepay for a full year, which seems like a bad
idea, but I'm no expert).

As I was writing this, Dave C wrote:

> Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside the benefits on the FAQ or other information pages?

I don't know, but I assume somewhere along the way some "expert" told
developers not to list pricing on their website, because it is a very
popular trend. I think it's a bad one, because it always seems like
they're trying to hide it, which makes it seem like they think it's
too high. If you aren't willing to be forthcoming about it, it just
seems deceptive. But again, maybe I'm wrong and people who are smarter
have figured out what it works better for them overall. It's
definitely a turn-off for me, though. I'm glad that Apple usually
lists IAP prices clearly, even on their web page previews:

https://itunes.apple.com/app/id808514898

TjL

--
TJ Luoma
TJ @ MacStories
Personal Website: luo.ma (aka RhymesWithDiploma.com)
Twitter: @tjluoma

[davecc0000]

TJ Luoma <***@gmail.com> wrote:

Dave C said:

>> Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside the benefits on the FAQ or other information pages?
>
> I don't know, but I assume somewhere along the way some "expert" told
> developers not to list pricing on their website, because it is a very
> popular trend. I think it's a bad one, because it always seems like
> they're trying to hide it, which makes it seem like they think it's
> too high. If you aren't willing to be forthcoming about it, it just
> seems deceptive.

THAT.

Dave

[Stephen Chong]

It's a freemium model. You can use the app without paying anything. The
free version works well. The premium version is more a way to support
the developer and help keep the app up to date. See
https://preside.io/PremiumFAQ.html.

(I've been using Preside for a while, and eMailGanizer for a few years
before that. It's a good app, and the developer is very responsive.)

Cheers,
Steve.

On 14 Nov 2018, at 16:08, TJ Luoma wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 3:45 PM Scott A. McIntyre
> <***@howyagoin.net> wrote:
>
>> The client I found:
>>
>> https://preside.io
> …
>> Just wanted to share this as I figured others in this community may
>> be
>> interested. Preside very much feels like a "power user" mail app,
>> just
>> as I see MailMate to be.
>
> I hadn't heard of this app before, and I was very excited to try this
> out… but a subscription of $25/year for an iOS mail app kept me
> away.
>
> I'm not against paying for software, even software that has a free
> alternative (e.g MailMate! I even used to pay for the Opera browser
> years ago before it went free). Heck, I think I paid $25 for a mail
> app on my old Treo 300 way back when. But subscribing to an app is
> still a pretty high bar for me.
>
> Then I got to thinking, if you do sign up for a year, it's basically a
> tiny bit more than $2/month (although unfortunately they charge
> $5/month if you don't prepay for a full year, which seems like a bad
> idea, but I'm no expert).
>
> As I was writing this, Dave C wrote:
>
>> Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside
>> the benefits on the FAQ or other information pages?
>
> I don't know, but I assume somewhere along the way some "expert" told
> developers not to list pricing on their website, because it is a very
> popular trend. I think it's a bad one, because it always seems like
> they're trying to hide it, which makes it seem like they think it's
> too high. If you aren't willing to be forthcoming about it, it just
> seems deceptive. But again, maybe I'm wrong and people who are smarter
> have figured out what it works better for them overall. It's
> definitely a turn-off for me, though. I'm glad that Apple usually
> lists IAP prices clearly, even on their web page previews:
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/app/id808514898
>
> TjL
>
> --
> TJ Luoma
> TJ @ MacStories
> Personal Website: luo.ma (aka RhymesWithDiploma.com)
> Twitter: @tjluoma
> _______________________________________________
> mailmate mailing list
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> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate

[Kee Hinckley]

I’m pretty stunned. My first thought was that it looked clunky and didn’t show many features on the app page. But in fact it’s amazingly powerful and massively configurable. Plus it has better omnifocus integration than Airmail. I’m hooked.

Thanks,

-Kee

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On Nov 15, 2018 at 06:58:07 PST, Robert Brenstein <***@learning-insights.eu> wrote:

On 15 November 2018, at 0825, Stephen Chong wrote: It's a freemium model. You can use the app without paying anything. The free version works well. The premium version is more a way to support the developer and help keep the app up to date. See https://preside.io/PremiumFAQ.html . For me the question is whether it is only IMAP or Outlook as well. That is not mentioned on the website. Robert

[Stephen Chong]

Hi Robert,
Yes, it supports Exchange servers. (I use it only for IMAP.)

Cheers,
Steve.

On 15 Nov 2018, at 9:58, Robert Brenstein wrote:

> On 15 November 2018, at 0825, Stephen Chong wrote:
>
>> It's a freemium model. You can use the app without paying anything.
>> The free version works well. The premium version is more a way to
>> support the developer and help keep the app up to date. See
>> https://preside.io/PremiumFAQ.html.
>
> For me the question is whether it is only IMAP or Outlook as well.
> That is not mentioned on the website.
>
> Robert


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[Giovanni Lanzani]

On 14 Nov 2018, at 22:05, davecc0000 wrote:

> Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside
> the benefits on the FAQ or other information pages?
>
> What does the annual subscription cost?
>
> Dave

25$/year

See [here](https://itunes.apple.com/app/id808514898) (scroll down to
in-app purchases).

[davecc0000]

> On Nov 14, 2018, at 1:09 PM, Giovanni Lanzani <***@lanzani.nl> wrote:
>
> On 14 Nov 2018, at 22:05, davecc0000 wrote:
>
> Why are so many app developers reluctant to post the costs alongside the benefits on the FAQ or other information pages?
>
> What does the annual subscription cost?
>
> Dave
>
> 25$/year
>
> See here (scroll down to in-app purchases).
>

In the App Store yes. My comment was about lack of price information on their web site.

Dave